Comments on: What Happens if a CCL Rupture is Not Repaired? http://dogkneeinjury.com/what-happens-if-a-ccl-rupture-is-not-repaired/ A Help Resource and Support Guide for Dog Owners Mon, 21 May 2012 14:08:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: lesley http://dogkneeinjury.com/what-happens-if-a-ccl-rupture-is-not-repaired/#comment-23683 lesley Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:55:53 +0000 http://dogkneeinjury.com/2008/what-happens-if-a-ccl-rupture-is-not-repaired/#comment-23683 Hi my 33 lb rotty had a tear in his ACL and had the Extracapsular Repair surgery after months of trying to rest the limb but didnt mend so vet decided to operate. He was doing brilliant and after four months he has started to limp again on the same limp. I called my vet who told me it was probably arthritis pain and to rest him. So I did and three days later he limped bad and walked strange again. So I took him to the vet and she said he would nbeed to come in to have to checked again..so operation was ment to be preformed yesterday (2.12.2010) I was told to pick him up at 6pm. I went down at 6pm and was told they didnt operatate (ARRGGHHH) he is showing sign of the drawer method again but he has swelling around the knee. He says he wants to see him in 3 weeks and assess him again ( I aint happy ) so has the Extracapsular Repair failed or do they still have slight drawer movement in the joint for a while? could u plz email me and let me know thankyou Hi my 33 lb rotty had a tear in his ACL and had the Extracapsular Repair surgery after months of trying to rest the limb but didnt mend so vet decided to operate. He was doing brilliant and after four months he has started to limp again on the same limp. I called my vet who told me it was probably arthritis pain and to rest him. So I did and three days later he limped bad and walked strange again. So I took him to the vet and she said he would nbeed to come in to have to checked again..so operation was ment to be preformed yesterday (2.12.2010) I was told to pick him up at 6pm. I went down at 6pm and was told they didnt operatate (ARRGGHHH) he is showing sign of the drawer method again but he has swelling around the knee. He says he wants to see him in 3 weeks and assess him again ( I aint happy ) so has the Extracapsular Repair failed or do they still have slight drawer movement in the joint for a while? could u plz email me and let me know thankyou

]]> By: Stacy http://dogkneeinjury.com/what-happens-if-a-ccl-rupture-is-not-repaired/#comment-23249 Stacy Wed, 15 Dec 2010 07:11:18 +0000 http://dogkneeinjury.com/2008/what-happens-if-a-ccl-rupture-is-not-repaired/#comment-23249 READ THIS BEFORE YOU HAVE THE SURGERY DONE! I have a small (42 lbs) APBT female named Emma. 2 years ago, as of this Christmas, she just stopped using one of her rear legs. As soon as we got back into town I took her to my Vet. She was put under and it was found that she had the drawer symptom. The vet gave us some pain killers, explained the treatment choices and sent us on our way. I exhausted myself reading all I could and just tried to make the best decision for her. Well, two weeks later I came home from work and my baby could not walk. She just hopped not moving EITHER OF HER REAR LEGS! I freaked out and started bawling my head off! Thank god for a husband that keeps a level head! I took a deep breath and called my vet. A day later and we had a confirmation that she had blown the other CCL! At this point I knew I could not afford both legs. I had a hard time convincing my husband to agree to one! I decided to try conservative methods and if she was not better in 8 weeks, then I would get one leg done. I totally restricted her. I mean totally. NO walks, NO jumping and pretty much no activity. I got a doggie litter box and a lot of toys and crossed my fingers. Well, now here we are two years later and Emma RUNS EVERYWHERE! No one would ever guess she ever had any issues. Will she have arthritis? Yeah probably, but so will the dogs that had Tightrope, Ex-cap, TTI, and TPLO. Her scar-tissue does the same thing as the tightrope and ex-cap. And people if your vet is telling you that your little 20 pounder needs surgery, get a second opinion! I am just saying what do you have to loose? If you restrict the activity level, no considerable damage will occur so do not think that. And if you are thinking "geeze I could never manage to keep my dog that constricted" just forget about treatment right now as the recovery period after a surgical fix is about the same as conservative therapy. Just my and Emma's 2 cents. READ THIS BEFORE YOU HAVE THE SURGERY DONE!

I have a small (42 lbs) APBT female named Emma. 2 years ago, as of this Christmas, she just stopped using one of her rear legs. As soon as we got back into town I took her to my Vet. She was put under and it was found that she had the drawer symptom. The vet gave us some pain killers, explained the treatment choices and sent us on our way.
I exhausted myself reading all I could and just tried to make the best decision for her. Well, two weeks later I came home from work and my baby could not walk. She just hopped not moving EITHER OF HER REAR LEGS! I freaked out and started bawling my head off! Thank god for a husband that keeps a level head! I took a deep breath and called my vet. A day later and we had a confirmation that she had blown the other CCL! At this point I knew I could not afford both legs. I had a hard time convincing my husband to agree to one! I decided to try conservative methods and if she was not better in 8 weeks, then I would get one leg done.
I totally restricted her. I mean totally. NO walks, NO jumping and pretty much no activity. I got a doggie litter box and a lot of toys and crossed my fingers.

Well, now here we are two years later and Emma RUNS EVERYWHERE! No one would ever guess she ever had any issues. Will she have arthritis? Yeah probably, but so will the dogs that had Tightrope, Ex-cap, TTI, and TPLO. Her scar-tissue does the same thing as the tightrope and ex-cap.

And people if your vet is telling you that your little 20 pounder needs surgery, get a second opinion! I am just saying what do you have to loose? If you restrict the activity level, no considerable damage will occur so do not think that. And if you are thinking “geeze I could never manage to keep my dog that constricted” just forget about treatment right now as the recovery period after a surgical fix is about the same as conservative therapy.

Just my and Emma’s 2 cents.

]]> By: donna http://dogkneeinjury.com/what-happens-if-a-ccl-rupture-is-not-repaired/#comment-21190 donna Sun, 28 Nov 2010 23:28:52 +0000 http://dogkneeinjury.com/2008/what-happens-if-a-ccl-rupture-is-not-repaired/#comment-21190 I am looking for anyone that has chosen conservative (non-surgical) therapy. I have a 7 yo female golden. She has a partial tear that occurred about 8 weeks ago. I have taken her off all pain medications and she is doing well. She is bearing about 65-80% weight on injured leg. I've kept her restricted (against her will) and seems to be doing well. I have another appointment next week, but would like to hear from anyone that has tried the non-surgical approach. Thanks I am looking for anyone that has chosen conservative (non-surgical) therapy. I have a 7 yo female golden. She has a partial tear that occurred about 8 weeks ago. I have taken her off all pain medications and she is doing well. She is bearing about 65-80% weight on injured leg. I’ve kept her restricted (against her will) and seems to be doing well. I have another appointment next week, but would like to hear from anyone that has tried the non-surgical approach.

Thanks

]]> By: Wendy http://dogkneeinjury.com/what-happens-if-a-ccl-rupture-is-not-repaired/#comment-5602 Wendy Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:15:09 +0000 http://dogkneeinjury.com/2008/what-happens-if-a-ccl-rupture-is-not-repaired/#comment-5602 Melanie, My first opinion for my dog was TPLO. She is 170 lb Mastiff who had torn both hind CCL's. I did some research and yes, TPLO is more expensive, and I would have done it for her, but opted to get a second opinion at a teaching hospital (they perform Encapsulation, TTA, TPLO...not into tight rope yet, but I was certain I didn't want that). I wanted a true evaluation for all three options. Going in, I was leaning toward TTA or Encapsulation. Because of her size and the fact that she needed both legs done, they recommended TTA. They had done 5 or 6 bilaterals in the past months and all dogs walked out in 4-5 days, assisted with a sling, of course. At 170 lbs, we knew this was our best option. Kendra had her surgery this past Friday and she was walking on Saturday evening. We had two legs done at the same price as one TPLO. Now I would also tell you that our friends had a 195 lb Mastiff who had his first encapsulation at 3 yrs old, the second one needed to be done a couple of years later....he lived to be 13 1/2 and was walking up to the end. So I was very interested in doing encapsulation. There were a few reasons I decided not to do encapsulation - she would not have enough stability to put pressure on both legs at the same time, TTA implants a small plate for that stability. the encapsulation specialist we would have gone to, not available for two more weeks and the fact that the teaching hospital could do any of these procedures, and they would still recommend TTA due to her size and the fact that we could not carry her or lift her. It was an overall approach that would work best for her and for us. Do some more research and get a second opinion, preferably somewhere where they do all of the procedures. We have always had our best results at a Vet teaching hospital...don't know if you have access to one. Our Vet is very good about referring us to specialists and to the teaching hospital for further opinion. It sounds to me like encapsulation would work for your dog. Make sure they would use at least 2 wires, in case one breaks. The healing process is a bit longer because it relies on the body's ability to develop scar tissue, which in fact, is what ends up being the stabilizer longer term. This is again why we couldn't do it. By the way, the plate and bone cutting in a TPLO was more significant...in my mind, than the TTA. And we were told that it would be 4-5 weeks between leg surgeries due to the healing process of the first TPLO. Not a viable option for Kendra. Melanie, My first opinion for my dog was TPLO. She is 170 lb Mastiff who had torn both hind CCL’s. I did some research and yes, TPLO is more expensive, and I would have done it for her, but opted to get a second opinion at a teaching hospital (they perform Encapsulation, TTA, TPLO…not into tight rope yet, but I was certain I didn’t want that). I wanted a true evaluation for all three options. Going in, I was leaning toward TTA or Encapsulation. Because of her size and the fact that she needed both legs done, they recommended TTA. They had done 5 or 6 bilaterals in the past months and all dogs walked out in 4-5 days, assisted with a sling, of course. At 170 lbs, we knew this was our best option. Kendra had her surgery this past Friday and she was walking on Saturday evening. We had two legs done at the same price as one TPLO. Now I would also tell you that our friends had a 195 lb Mastiff who had his first encapsulation at 3 yrs old, the second one needed to be done a couple of years later….he lived to be 13 1/2 and was walking up to the end. So I was very interested in doing encapsulation. There were a few reasons I decided not to do encapsulation – she would not have enough stability to put pressure on both legs at the same time, TTA implants a small plate for that stability. the encapsulation specialist we would have gone to, not available for two more weeks and the fact that the teaching hospital could do any of these procedures, and they would still recommend TTA due to her size and the fact that we could not carry her or lift her. It was an overall approach that would work best for her and for us. Do some more research and get a second opinion, preferably somewhere where they do all of the procedures. We have always had our best results at a Vet teaching hospital…don’t know if you have access to one. Our Vet is very good about referring us to specialists and to the teaching hospital for further opinion. It sounds to me like encapsulation would work for your dog. Make sure they would use at least 2 wires, in case one breaks. The healing process is a bit longer because it relies on the body’s ability to develop scar tissue, which in fact, is what ends up being the stabilizer longer term. This is again why we couldn’t do it. By the way, the plate and bone cutting in a TPLO was more significant…in my mind, than the TTA. And we were told that it would be 4-5 weeks between leg surgeries due to the healing process of the first TPLO. Not a viable option for Kendra.

]]> By: melanie http://dogkneeinjury.com/what-happens-if-a-ccl-rupture-is-not-repaired/#comment-5569 melanie Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:30:13 +0000 http://dogkneeinjury.com/2008/what-happens-if-a-ccl-rupture-is-not-repaired/#comment-5569 i live in australia and have just been to the clinc to see a vet about ccl injury for my 6yr old labrador her name is Holly, she went lame about september last year. she weigh's about 36kg an she is a lazy dog. Holly is quite happy to laze about the backyard an sleep all day, she does go for walks but not for long.Holly loves swimming in her paddle pool an our large pool. Other than that she sleeps an she is happy, the vet is recommending TPLO but i prefer extra capsular repair as it is less invasive an she is not an active dog the cost is not important. I have read everything possible on your site but still unsure, I am wondering if you could give me some advice on which one to do. I have another lab an she is very active with no ccl injury to speak of yet and i would not hesitate to do tplo on her but Holly i am not sure of. thanking you melanie from australia. i live in australia and have just been to the clinc to see a vet about ccl injury for my 6yr old labrador her name is Holly, she went lame about september last year. she weigh’s about 36kg an she is a lazy dog. Holly is quite happy to laze about the backyard an sleep all day, she does go for walks but not for long.Holly loves swimming in her paddle pool an our large pool. Other than that she sleeps an she is happy, the vet is recommending TPLO but i prefer extra capsular repair as it is less invasive an she is not an active dog the cost is not important. I have read everything possible on your site but still unsure, I am wondering if you could give me some advice on which one to do. I have another lab an she is very active with no ccl injury to speak of yet and i would not hesitate to do tplo on her but Holly i am not sure of. thanking you melanie from australia.

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